In episode 13, I talk to Nick Spicer FRGS, a father, disaster response volunteer, and founder of renewable energy company, YourEco, about his personal goal of completing the Yukon 1000, a race held in the remote backcountries of the US and Canada that ends inside the Arctic circle, and is completed in pairs using either sea kayaks, canoes, or stand-up paddle board, in under 10 days.

 

We discuss his experiences on other big endurance events (such as the Marathon des Sables, Brutal iron-distance triathlon, and ultramarathons), how he balances personal adventure goals whilst having a family and running a business, how to train when you’ve got a busy lifestyle, and what he plans to do to keep his life vibrant as he enters his forties.

 

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/yukon1000race/

https://www.instagram.com/your_eco_/

https://instagram.com/reduce_our_carbon_foundation

  

Web:

https://www.yukon1000.org

https://www.yourecouk.com

https://reduceourcarbon.org

Charity expedition page: https://express.adobe.com/page/9aYvoTiBt0zGc/

  • 00:00:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hi and welcome to the Tales Adventure podcast. I'm Chris, your host, and every month I'll be interviewing inspiring adventures about overcoming hardship, taking risk, and living more vibrantly. The broadcast aims to document the learning that's got these stand out individuals to where they are now. They've said 13.

    00:00:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Talked to good mate Nick Spicer, founder of Renewable energy Company your echo, about her personal goal of completing the new Con 1000A race held remote back countries of the US and Canada that ends at the Arctic Circle, is completed in pairs using either sea kayaks, canoes or summit paddle board #10 days.

    00:00:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    We discuss how he balances personal venture goals whilst having a family and running a business. How to train when you've got a busy lifestyle, what he plans to do to keep his life vibrant as he enters his 40s.

    00:00:50 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hey, Nick, welcome to the Tale Adventure podcast. It's great to have you on. How's tricks?

    00:00:54 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, it's good to see you, mate. Feels.

    00:00:55 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Like it's been a while, so isn't it?

    00:00:58 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah. Thanks for having me and nice to be chatting.

    00:01:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Very much so, yeah, it feels like it's it's been a good couple of years now, hasn't it? Since I think we were last hanging out in the Caribbean, wasn't it for?

    00:01:06 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The Hurricane Irma response I was.

    00:01:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I mean like every as everyone says, yeah, we were last hanging out in the Caribbean, I think. And all that entails.

    00:01:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Some random military camp in the Caribbean, touring and flowing between islands hit by hurricane and so yeah, as you do. But yeah.

    00:01:18 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It wasn't that.

    00:01:21 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Here we are.

    00:01:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Well, mate, it's great to have you on anyway.

    00:01:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I'm really keen.

    00:01:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    To kind of hear a lot about the Yukon 1000 because it's something that no one, no one's actually spoken about on until the venture podcast, and no one really talks about it all that often. So thank you so much for giving up an hour of your time just to come in and tell me about no.

    00:01:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Awesome.

    00:01:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    We'll just roll.

    00:01:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Into my first question. And where did the idea for the Yukon 1000?

    00:01:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I'm from.

    00:01:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, good question. It. It came about by a a long term good friend of mine. Dear friend of mine, Dan Holloway, who was my company 2 IC when I joined.

    00:01:52 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Stallion in the army after leaving Sanders during Yorkshire Regiment and and Dan and I have done quite a few things individually, but never done something together and we talked about wanting to do something and you know, just came up as something, you know, that we thought would be about right to do and maybe because of the fact that we actually quite like the fact that.

    00:02:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It's sitting on your **** for 10 days.

    00:02:15 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Sounded all the rats, but I guess, but yeah, I'm not quite sure what we've let ourself in for, but I think it's something, you know, that both of us have been keen to take something on together and it looked like something suitable and yeah. And and also some timely event to do.

    00:02:31 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, but I mean, where did you actually?

    00:02:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hear about him? Yeah. Dan had heard about it.

    00:02:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Who? A friend of his who had done it and actually a friend of mine had done it. Who we transpire went to go catch up with him for.

    00:02:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know one night and and it kind of just got a bit of the bug and it's actually an event organised by a chap who's serving in the military about to leave and he's taking it on from the original guy who set the.

    00:02:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Race up and.

    00:02:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I think it's quite, you know, probably not so widely known and I love the comment that more people have been up Everest than.

    00:03:01 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Past Dawson City, which, seeing as my wife Amanda always says that I'm not allowed to climb mountains in Everest, seemed pretty app that I'd.

    00:03:10 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Gave you this.

    00:03:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    One, she's been pretty sympathetic to everything else I've done as of.

    00:03:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    The children but.

    00:03:15 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah. So you know, I once laughed about things like this. You you remember Jared Christmas? Who did some of the comedy gigs back in the days? We were sort of using as fundraiser Team Rubicon and all those good things. And I was having a chat with Jared years ago, and he was talking about wanting to create a TV show, a podcast.

    00:03:26

    Yeah.

    00:03:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Called an idiot in sport and which was kind of where I fell into it and I think I I start by saying I am no means some adventure athlete or serious endurance athlete. I'm just a guy with a positive disposition who likes a bit of a challenge and wants to see what can be done.

    00:03:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I mean I, as I said, I've done a few things, but they've always kind of been first. I mean, I was thinking about this last night in anticipation. My first proper bike ride, I call it a bike ride since being a kid of any sizable duration, was a weekend cycle to Paris for cop. I'd never ridden a motorbike.

    00:04:11

    Yeah.

    00:04:13 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    For and then we went off road motorbike and up the coast of South Africa off Road, which was awesome. I've never swam open water before my first open water swim was from Europe to Asia.

    00:04:18

    Very welcome.

    00:04:24 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Across the Bosphorus, which doing the Hellespont, which, if you want a weekend adventure, is awesome, but I literally went out on the Friday, I think had a few too many drinks and was doing a bit of a classic breast stroke with my head above the water to which a boat hooked me out on the training session and made me swing front crawl for 50 metres to decide if I could continue on it.

    00:04:42 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    So maybe things are my prolific.

    00:04:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Athlete my time in Turkey was spoke with probably a few too many high intensity shots and a kebab at the end before trying to do a Europe to Asia cross continental swim.

    00:04:54 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And then, yeah, my first marathon. I've never done a marathon before. That was running the North Cornish coastal.

    00:05:01 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    NDS.

    00:05:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Was my first Ultra marathon and then my first triathlon was the brutal extreme Iron Man on Snowdonia, which was a miserable experience. So as Jared was saying, it's a thing of 1st and and I've always tried to make the first quite extreme and so this will be the first time I've ever paddled.

    00:05:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Cheeks yeah.

    00:05:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    In the water, so my only preparation at present is on a rowing machine. So an idiot in sport is probably quite apt for this.

    00:05:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Also, I mean, did the did the I love how kind of these things just have just like popped?

    00:05:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Of how your you know, your first ultra was the NDS. Your, your, your first, you know, triathlon was the was the brutal extreme, you know, not not, you know, bypassing the Iron Man, just going straight for the the Iron Man Upper Mountain.

    00:05:48 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    As well, yeah. And and let me just clarify that I I'm aiming in anything I do to compete never to sorry to.

    00:05:55 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Complete rather never.

    00:05:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    To compete, make got that the wrong way around, which would be dangerous and I'm I'm representing everyone who is not a supreme athlete but feels that they would like to achieve things. So as I said and turning 40 this year, the Yukon felt like a right time to still show.

    00:06:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know you can get out about and have.

    00:06:15 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    An adventure.

    00:06:16 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That's awesome. Well, I just want to kind of jump in and just like add a few kind of bits of information about the Yukon because I had to research this quite deeply to actually understand it because I only ever seen it. I never heard about it. Sorry on I think Jason Fox from who dares wins did it and and I was like what's the Yukon? One thousandth third of?

    00:06:33 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah.

    00:06:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know other things up in that area, but the the ECON 1000, but it's essentially it's it's a fully self-sufficient kind of expedition that starts in Canada and ends up in the US Alaska it goes for a thousand 1000 miles. Hence the name you're allowed to to do a maximum of 18 hours of paddling every day and.

    00:06:55 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Apparently self navigation can be a bit of a challenge, so I guess probably the the the reasons for undertaking the challenge are you know entering your 4th decade is to prove to yourself you know you still got these kind of things in in, in the tank. I.

    00:07:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah. Although maybe when you put it like that, I'm not sure I wanna do it anymore.

    00:07:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I.

    00:07:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I think you know it's like, look, I I've always loved, you know, the natural world, the natural environment in which we're blessed to live in, you know, studied geography at university and, you know, have a geographer, I guess. And, you know, always loved adventure and exploration. And I think sometimes, you know, in the world in which social media is so prevalent.

    00:07:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you know the actual art to truly explore or immerse oneself in cultural, whatever it is, it's quite challenging, really, isn't it? Like, you know, if someone sees.

    00:07:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    They're an iconic spot or a cultural spot, you know, these days it's plastered all.

    00:07:49 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Over social media.

    00:07:50

    Yes, Sir.

    00:07:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I mean I I talked to the children about it, like, you know, and there's my wife and I showing them when we took a trip around the world after university, before I went to Sandhurst and, you know, yeah, we've got pictures from it, but not the videos and everything else. And actually, you know, there's so many places left to explore.

    00:08:06 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That you know or or even to see, and I think one way of doing that is to truly immerse yourself within it and. And so for me, it's not necessarily as cliche as it sounds about the adventure or the undertaking, it's kind of about the.

    00:08:13

    Yeah.

    00:08:20 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Money and and actually like you know, I think about M DS and NDS was an incredible experience to go fully immerse myself in the Sahara desert. You know, actually experience sand dunes and jebels and everything else that goes with it, which otherwise you know, you go to Morocco on a holiday and you drive out for a day in your bus tour.

    00:08:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you get kicked out on a Jebel or?

    00:08:42 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    A sand dune. You go look at this. There's everyone else.

    00:08:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Around me, but actually to live and breathe, you know, under the better intense and, you know, immerse yourself in it is you know something that I think not that we forget but so many people don't do. And I suppose for me part of this is just saying hey look, there's an incredible world out there that we don't explore often enough and you know with me.

    00:08:46

    Yeah.

    00:09:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know Nick, Dad of two runs. His business goes. Hey, you know what? I'm gonna go to Yukon, go for a long paddle.

    00:09:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Down the river this summer.

    00:09:13

    There he is.

    00:09:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, hopefully it inspires others, but more so probably hopefully inspires my kids and says, you know.

    00:09:19 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You're never too old to do.

    00:09:20 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And just saying, you know, hopefully turning 40, you know, still got it in me. And as I said, I'm I'm a real plodder. I don't set any speed records, that's for sure. I never have. If you watch me dismally complete in the 100 metres at school. I was pathetic. I think it's only my long, gangly legs, that sort of 6 foot three that helped me get over the high jump a little bit but.

    00:09:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Until I actually took some coordination, I was pretty rubbish at that too, so I wouldn't call myself a a immense athlete. I'm just someone who.

    00:09:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Can dig in and you know, plot along. And I think that's what I find amazing. Like what the what? The human body can achieve. Because I think there's so much more in the tank than we ever think. And when people often think that's the end, you know, there's so much more to give really. And then, you know, lastly, it's always good to raise awareness of of causes close to your heart.

    00:10:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I've been involved in setting up a charity called Reducer Carbon, which is adopts an agroforestry model over in Nicaragua working with local communities on planting fruit trees and smokeless stoves as part of the programme, and it working sort of in line with the SDG's, helps them with their livelihoods and economic impact.

    00:10:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    By enabling them to sell the fruit for revenue, which enhances their revenue plus then they look after the trees and also there's a benefit of saving carbon. So part of this for me is I'm doing this and I just put my sort of money where my carbon is as the slogan is. So money where the carbon is for me was about offsetting my lifetime carbon emissions.

    00:10:49 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    So.

    00:10:50

    Yeah.

    00:10:51 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I'm gonna plant enough trees and you know people are kindly gifting money, but that's not the point for me. It's and it's great that they are, but for me it's. I'm gonna put my own money where my carbon is and offset my lifetime to carbon. And you know, it's not perfect. Carbon offsetting by any means. There's pros and cons, but I think when I've looked at it before and we did it for a business.

    00:11:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    The models I saw perhaps weren't perfect in the way they did things, and you know, looking at the sequestration rates of trees properly, we decided it was something we felt passionate about. And so, yeah, that's one of the other reasons for me doing this really.

    00:11:24

    Yeah.

    00:11:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, it. I mean, it's interesting that you, you kind of mentioned almost adventures with purpose because I think we're probably the same mindset growing up was that, you know, I'd only ever look at adventures that had like an ultimate goal in mind as in, you know, skate something, Everest or getting to South Pole or something, which is like a a goal in mind which you can then say I've done this thing.

    00:11:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And then that kind of gives you confidence or pride in your ability, but I think actually kind of the the way the world's going these days these days you know with kind of everything on social media that that like you said that deluge of of.

    00:11:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Kind of places that you can be and show off and and that sort of stuff is that I think actually people now are are getting into adventures and slow travel much more for their thing. The mental health benefits and actually the the life balances and kind of proving to like say proving to yourself, you know, and to your children that actually you can still do things in your 40s.

    00:12:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Whereas maybe you go back a few generations, that wasn't. It wasn't really a done thing, was it? Yeah. You kind of worked.

    00:12:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    In.

    00:12:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You worked, you know, a concern, a career.

    00:12:23

    No.

    00:12:25 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But I and I mean I'm I fortunately like like, you know, I run a run a an ever growing business rather topical at the moment working in the world of renewable energy called your Rico and one of the things.

    00:12:37 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Think we hold.

    00:12:38 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Dear is, you know, a notion of.

    00:12:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    People, planet profit.

    00:12:42 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And really trying to follow through on that that you know that whole notion that profits shouldn't be a bad word because to make profit you can invest in things that look after the planet and people and empower people to do great things. I mean, one of them is, you know, you may remember from times Rick Walters and in light of, you know, thoughts with everyone, Turkey and Syria at the moment.

    00:12:42

    I'm good.

    00:12:52

    Yeah.

    00:12:58

    Here.

    00:13:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, we always commit to supporting those who want to continue to serve. You know, we obviously support the armed forces covenant, but you know, we're supporting Rick in, you know, going out to Turkey and Syria with react, you know, I know he's put his name into a troll and made himself.

    00:13:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Very fantastic.

    00:13:19 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Available and we've changed our schedule around one of the things is, yeah, hey, it has a detrimental impact on us as a business. Yes. But like last night, when I spoke to my OPS manager, Megan and project manager Mike, I said, hey, guys, if like if Rick needs to go, we need to change the schedule to allow him and we need to make our clients aware that there could be impacts. But actually that's for the greater good of society.

    00:13:34

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:13:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And if clients don't understand that, then you know they're probably not the type of people you, you know, you want to be working with, you know, in in a partnership approach.

    00:13:49 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, I say that because you know, we want to be a purpose driven business and I think that's important part of our business. You know, we're just finishing off our B core accreditation at the moment. But you know you, yeah, so that should be coming through any moment, which is great and but you know you talked about connectivity and everything else and looping back to that.

    00:13:58 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Very fantastic.

    00:14:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I think one of the biggest challenges for me in this is surviving up to the 10 days without my.

    00:14:15 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Well, fine.

    00:14:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I am inexplicably linked and wedded to my phone, whether that's the kids, my wife, family, friends, whatever. But business, you know, I I'm going cold Turkey on my mobile phone, which is something that I know will be quite profound for me. As silly as that sounds like to let go of the rains of business life.

    00:14:16

    Yeah.

    00:14:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you know, actually just, you know, put myself out there and immerse myself in the Yukon and all there is around it. And it's probably for me what feels like the greatest challenge of it all. I'll talk about that after clearly when I realise paddling was much harder than I thought. But you know, that's.

    00:14:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, that's an interesting one. And that purpose approach and putting oneself first like the last few years, I feel have really been riding a tsunami and actually it it's time to sort of picking up a having a paddle up a river sounds a bit more of a genteel or a gentle fitting conclusion.

    00:15:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Stepping off the tsunami, and whilst UConn obviously won't be a walk in the park or a a gentle paddle up a river, you know it's almost that analogy of, you know, purpose and putting oneself there to go do something, you know, for your own mind and you want for your own being as well, because if you can make yourself a better person, hopefully that.

    00:15:30 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, it's better enhances the lives of those around you.

    00:15:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Too, yeah, I mean that you, you almost pretty much answered that my my third question actually you know in that kind of statement is like putting your you know putting yourself first so that you're you're not kind of just living living for other people but you're still doing things which you know you grew up doing.

    00:15:50 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The first kind of, you know, three or four decades of your life and you're and kind of reminding us of you, can you can do those things again and and actually, you know it also it fundraisers for charity it it it's it's a good example for other people to follow.

    00:16:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Know and just reinforces kind of positive boundary between work and life, which is all too easy to let slide. You know, in this this modern era, isn't it, I guess of.

    00:16:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, it it's interesting cause one.

    00:16:14 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Thing just jumped in my head there, and it's that old cliche we.

    00:16:17 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Would.

    00:16:17 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    We've been talking about it at work. We had a company day a few weeks ago now where we we try and bed what I call that military approach. So you know mission command, all those good values and everything else. And one of the things I talked about is like the Santos motto.

    00:16:32 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Of serve to lead and you know. But sometimes you know, you serve those around you to lead them. But actually sometimes there's a need to lead, to serve.

    00:16:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And it just made me.

    00:16:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Think like this is probably one of those.

    00:16:42 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Things that you know I need to do for myself to make sure sometimes you put yourself 1st and do those things to positively enhance and develop oneself as an individual in order to continue with everything else you're doing in your life. I mean, unfortunate that I I love what I do and it's a vocation, not a career, of course and.

    00:16:49

    Yeah.

    00:17:03 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That was one of the reasons why I tried to set your eco up in that way and build the culture that.

    00:17:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Hopefully we have.

    00:17:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But you know you need to continue to make sure you always have that, you know, I'd call myself that ever an optimist. But you know that positive enthusiasm every day.

    00:17:18 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you know, it's always making sure that you're checking in with yourself to make sure that you can look after others in the best way too.

    00:17:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Yeah. And so I guess, I guess.

    00:17:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The the undertaking this sort of thing, you know, it's not just like you're doing the the device to Westminster Canoe Race, which is, you know like 2 days over a weekend and you go straight back into work probably, you know on the Monday and and you know probably still work on the up until Thursday as well whereas this this is actually kind of almost like a reinforced you know right.

    00:17:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Protective self development time. You know chance to.

    00:17:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Day Day couple from the the mobile phone and emails and stuff and be like, right. Actually what's you know what I want my life to look like in five, 1015 years time and is this going in the right.

    00:18:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Directions. That's kind of.

    00:18:03 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    What? Yeah, I mean, like, devices to Westminster. I've always admired people doing that. And it's always something I've looked at.

    00:18:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I'm picking.

    00:18:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And wanted to do but.

    00:18:10 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It looks like such a thrash.

    00:18:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Thing you know, but actually, like I said, this is part of that journey to go. You're gonna travel out there, you know, gonna find myself in Whitehorse, Canada. You know, sit there, having a look around going ohh. Where am I? Like, sorting out a boat and bear barrels and all this stuff. But you know, it's that journey and the time out to properly, you know like properly.

    00:18:32 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Take time out and sort of purge everything and like you.

    00:18:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Say look forward you.

    00:18:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Know to what you're completing, but enable you know the same vision in your own goals.

    00:18:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And what you want to achieve?

    00:18:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, I had. I had. I had the I can empathise because I had the same kind of realisation when I read across the Atlantic. That was, that was what, three months kind of out of, you know, a very busy existence, you know, kind of after I left the military, actually, I realised that not taking three months every 1015 years, you know, would actually save me a lot of time in doing smaller.

    00:19:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Kind of more, more manageable adventures, which I've I've called compound adventures from from now as into every few years, take a a week or two to do something which I really want to do. That's.

    00:19:14 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Gives me then focus and something to to train for, but it it does lead on to my. My kind of next question is how are you preparing for for doing the Yukon around having a family? Obviously a marriage and business, you know, a business employs people like how how do you think all.

    00:19:31 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I I've got a rowing machine does that.

    00:19:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That's.

    00:19:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Do you know what? I'm genuinely gonna be?

    00:19:38 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Truthfully, unprepared. And you know what? That's part of the acceptance and part of the charm to me. Then I look at these things and you know I. OK. So I bought. I bought one of these rowing machines would have brought all those hydro rowing machines where where you've got some scenery you're looking at when you row through.

    00:19:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And I'm. I'm on that for I don't know, some days, 15 minutes, half an hour. I mean, it's certainly not 18 hours a day, but, you know, I'm kind of the view going well, you know, that'll work. I mean, I think the longest I ran before I did MD S was 10 miles.

    00:20:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And so I'm not someone that's gonna do thousands of miles beforehand and burn myself out. If anything, I'm gonna go in top up a bit more food before I get in and take it there. Really, you know, noting it's probably gonna deprive me of food for a couple of weeks, but I I think, yeah, I I mean, that's it, you know.

    00:20:31 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I've not even. I'm not even going to have been able to row with Dan because Dan's Colonel serving out in the the Army out in Q8 at the moment. So I think we've got one row for a few hours booked in Bath in early March and that's probably it before the next time we see each other at an airport on our.

    00:20:44

    Here.

    00:20:47 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Way out to the US.

    00:20:49

    Yeah.

    00:20:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, but.

    00:20:51 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I probably sense and talking to John the the the guy who runs the event, you know it probably is one of those that's 30% paddling. You know, the rest of it is sort of attitude and admin and which is probably where I hope to thrive. I mean, I use marathon disable as as a classic example and it builds on the military really.

    00:21:10 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Well, I, you know, in the military, I love nothing more than kit pack.

    00:21:13 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Being an admin OCDM me that there's still loves packing and cleaning, tidying and everything else that people look at.

    00:21:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yes.

    00:21:20 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Me. Go. Seriously. I look, I love packing.

    00:21:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And I definitely wanna peak too early fitness.

    00:21:25 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Wise, but you know it's.

    00:21:27 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That old adage, but I think it's just the ability to, you know, be efficient and I and I think you know I talk about.

    00:21:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yes, because I remember, you know, coming in off runs and I literally went straight to my role map.

    00:21:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, had some food, had a stretch bit, yoga, and stretching out in the sun and then jump.

    00:21:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Back in my.

    00:21:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Roll mat, you know, did my own blisters and feet and whatever it was and literally lay there and moved as little as.

    00:21:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Possible and I'd look.

    00:21:54 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Out of this sort of better intent, and in the middle of this sort of it's.

    00:21:58 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Sort of this Half Moon.

    00:22:00 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And and what they call dot trotters or something. Any of these doctors who volunteered? Doctors. Wonderful.

    00:22:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:22:04

    And people were.

    00:22:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Queuing up in droves, like just standing parched in the sunshine to deal with things and you think you're just further draining.

    00:22:13 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yourself and I think that's the key and one of the things Dan and I spoke about this is it's the efficiency of right, you know, actually eat on the boat, pull up, you know one put the bare barrel aside clothes off one set up a tent dive in good sleep you know maximise your time and off you go and I think that's probably where from what I'm reading others have perhaps struggled more whereas I hope that that positivity.

    00:22:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Bring you know, that approach brings us through, not in a competitive side might I add, but just in a staying with the pack and perhaps making up for the shortfalls and deficiencies in my paddling.

    00:22:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No, it's funny. It's funny. Is it actually cause a a very similar kind of experience from the DS in that there there's a a kind of a linked metaphor here is kind of what I'll what I'll get to. But kind of people on the on the start line shot off like you know the like the hair is in the in the in the in the in the story you know I was.

    00:23:05 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Like the tortoise, who was literally just started plotting, and I went for a.

    00:23:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And we realised actually the camel was about to overtake me on like, you know, literally about 100 metres at.

    00:23:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The start of day.

    00:23:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    One that's like I'm I'm definitely last person right now.

    00:23:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    But it's amazing how quickly you get through the pack, though. After a while, isn't it? Yeah, well, it is. Especially after kind of day three and day four, when people who shot off at the start and then.

    00:23:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    They're not well conditioned for it. The heat has taken its effect and actually just by slowly plodding, actually you find that you kind of just eat up those, you know, those those hares who essentially just, you know, just run between checkpoints, have to have an hours rest. And you can just walk, almost walk between them, have a sip of water and then just walk to the next one and.

    00:23:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Keep them going, that consistent pace.

    00:23:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, I I think that's exactly the approach and I think you know if someone said to me what's one of your regrets on MSDS, it was probably the fact that.

    00:23:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I probably could have done better. I think you know, I adopted that approach and I think you know probably, you know, you mark it by where you came probably in the top half. But I probably think you know, but probably only just. But I'm probably thinking finally just like run a bit more than walked well that that would have been interesting.

    00:24:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It was amazing, though. Yeah, I did it. There's a chap called Tom.

    00:24:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Evans. He was a Welsh Guards.

    00:24:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Sir uh and and Tom hadn't really obviously professed to have done huge amounts of running or events, and he was doing it with walking, with the wounded, and I'd kind of tagged on to them through knowing friends there. And he came third overall and I don't know if you've seen or heard of Tom Evans or tracked him, but well, he almost did phenomenally.

    00:24:27

    Oh wow.

    00:24:31 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:24:33 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Now I think he's a Red Bull athlete and running all over and he just did the the run up in Chamonix and he's over in the states at the moment so you need to catch up with them at some stage on his extreme running but.

    00:24:45 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, I think it's one of those, isn't it? Like Hare and the tortoise and that's it. And you know my my hope is that come day 34567, when others are really feeling it, I'm just enjoying my gentle paddle down the Yukon.

    00:24:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You're definitely preparing more than I think I would be right now. It's it's super cold here, so it's definitely not not training weather, but it does get me on to.

    00:25:05 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Quite commonly on to my next question is kind of how how do you actually do it because.

    00:25:09 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I realise it's probably there's probably flights and hire cars, all sorts involved, so if you can, you give us an idea of how you actually get to the start line.

    00:25:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, funny enough, I was just booking flights the other night trying to figure it out as usual. Leaving it to the last minute and.

    00:25:21 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Realising there's not that.

    00:25:22 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Many left and I think the the challenge is you. You go to Canada and then you end up in Alaska. So we're actually flying out to Sean.

    00:25:31 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And then Seattle, via Vancouver up to Whitehorse, noting the Canadian side. And then once we finish through, obviously through Dawson City and end up in Fairbanks, AK, we're then going to fly from Alaska and Fairbanks back to Seattle.

    00:25:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Because it's US linked and then out from Seattle home, so a bit of logistics in it, so.

    00:25:56

    Think.

    00:25:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know d -, 6 or whatever it is, is out there and into Seattle, you know, probably less than that. And then fly in, give ourselves a couple of days before just to sort of get the canoe, figure out how a paddle works and the boat works. Throw some stuff in and, you know, make sure we can paddle and have probably have a few hours on the river. And then I think there's a race brief and then off the day.

    00:26:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    After that and then I think you know it's 10 days for it. We're hoping to do it in seven days, but kind of allowing 8-9 days and I think it's the finish lines, the last crossing of the Dalton High.

    00:26:20

    So.

    00:26:28 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    The way which I think is like something like those who watch ice Rd trucking right there or something.

    00:26:33 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And I think it's like an unglamorous finish line, you know, under a bridge. Meet the race organiser quick, shake their hands and fall asleep in the back of a car and drive a few hours to Fairbanks and then head home from there. I think what's quite nice.

    00:26:48 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Mouse it is the fact that it it seems to have almost an unceremonious approach to it, and that it is about the adventure as opposed to what goes on around it. So yeah, I think that's, you know, that's the main aim of.

    00:26:52

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:27:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And then, you know, take with us everything we're taking from a tent to some foods. And, you know, some probably freeze dried Russians, probably a bit of old army rations and whatever else, and go do it that way.

    00:27:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Do you actually hire the boat when you're out there then, or do you take?

    00:27:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Your own boat? Yeah, we've hired the boat already. So hide the boat out there. I think you know, there's a lot of people who go out to, you know, White Horse and use the canoes and boats or kayaks. We're doing an old world.

    00:27:27 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    War Two Clipper style.

    00:27:27 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Everybody.

    00:27:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Which I thought which I thought be quite cool. I I call it higher with a style.

    00:27:33 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Right. You know, off we go. I've still got this impression that's gonna be this lovely paddle down a big river, but yeah. Let's see about that.

    00:27:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    One and and then, yeah, you sort of, they pick him up at the end and drop him back. So really well organised. But you know the same time still logistics to sort need to sort our own SAT phones and spot trackers and everything else just cause it is unsupported in that in in that regard. So yeah, should be exciting.

    00:27:56

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:27:58 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, that's brilliant. I remember you brought back some, some reinvented memories of the DW we we had a team with us that was doing it in the clip of canoe and they literally called it the Bismarck cause. You got 7077 something times you got to got to pick the boat out of the water and carry it. Obviously along the path or something.

    00:28:16 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And they they they say.

    00:28:18 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That it's the Bismarck it weighs.

    00:28:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    A tonne look.

    00:28:22 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, I I'm not planning on picking it out that much. I think it's one of those just literally cruising to the side bank somewhere and throw it ashore and call it good. But I I equally don't fancy doing it in the kayak.

    00:28:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Take care.

    00:28:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That sounds miserable for I'm not.

    00:28:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Posture. But you know what I mean. Sitting in a kayak sounds and how you do it on a stand up paddle board 18 hours a day standing up, I I don't think so. I I love my stand up paddleboarding and that that I I do quite a bit of it and I I will do more before we go. That's probably the closest I get to paddling but 18 hours for I don't know 6788 days sounds.

    00:28:59 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Brutal on that. Hence canoe feels like the right way.

    00:29:01

    Yeah, yeah, in.

    00:29:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    In researching this, obviously I chat in the race, so I was like, I actually didn't believe it when they said you can do it on a stand up paddle board. I was like, there's no way anyone's done that. Stand up paddle board before.

    00:29:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And it turns out that some people have done it in eight days, and it was only, I think, a couple of years ago that they actually completed it. But big respect for, you know, for. Yeah.

    00:29:22 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    1000 miles still seems a long way. I know you got 10 days, but it seems a long way when even my simple math goes. That's 100 miles a day like worst case. I'm like I.

    00:29:26

    Yeah.

    00:29:31

    Standing up.

    00:29:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Really hope there's a good coat with this.

    00:29:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Only be like the equivalent of a log flume. You just catapult and needle the way along.

    00:29:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I think carrying as well cause obviously you got to carry. Is it like so up to 40 kilos kind of research suggested but I guess that's probably you know that is that worst case scenario I guess cause you you bring you take.

    00:29:55 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    All of your.

    00:29:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Food all of your.

    00:29:58 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Well, how do you get? How do you get? How? How do you get?

    00:29:59 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I don't know, but it's clearly.

    00:30:00 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    A lot of way.

    00:30:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Water. Do you take tickle with you or did?

    00:30:03 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You take a a life life, straw bottle and whip it.

    00:30:04

    Oh.

    00:30:07 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Out the river.

    00:30:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And use a philtre in a bottle. But yeah, I I haven't really thought about the weight or anything, but you're also talking to the person who did MDSI think with 20 people in his back at the start line, I basically decided I need lots of socks and lots of food. And I was told I had to reduce a bit of weight at the start line, so going.

    00:30:25

    So.

    00:30:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Minimalist is never normally my approach.

    00:30:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I mean like.

    00:30:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I'd always. I'd always.

    00:30:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Rather carry a bit more and.

    00:30:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Take the posits from them.

    00:30:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Have it not need that old saying, isn't it? Have it and not need it.

    00:30:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And you know, not have it and leave it. Geez.

    00:30:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, quote.

    00:30:44 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Well, yeah, I mean.

    00:30:46 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It it sounds it sounds incredible because you've got, you've got a lot of flights logistics to get there and obviously getting most, you know most of your gear out there and then and then picking up the boat getting to the start line. And then I guess, do you actually drive yourself to the airport once you've finished it?

    00:30:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    All after 10 days or does is that? Is that leg of it actually kind of?

    00:31:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Done by somebody else.

    00:31:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Think.

    00:31:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I I I literally, I don't know.

    00:31:07 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I think you get dropped back into Fairbanks at the end of it, get a hotel for the night and then make yourself make your way to the airport. So yeah, we'll see. Probably a day in Fairbanks at the end could be.

    00:31:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Strong.

    00:31:19 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Two, if you quit.

    00:31:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:31:21 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Could be none of that slow, but hey, it'll be interesting to have it going in Fairbanks.

    00:31:25 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    To town, I've never explored in Alaska and a town I'm sure many people haven't been to. Apparently there's I can't remember the name of the place Eagle City or eagle. Eagle Creek might be. Eagle Creek. Can't remember where it was. There's somewhere. Apparently. Where you cross from? Canada into Alaska. And obviously you go into the US territory there where you sort of have to jump out onto.

    00:31:29

    Good.

    00:31:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Shore and call a phone box to sort of call customs to say you're crossing a border which which sounds cool, so I can't remember the name of it. It'll come apparent or remember it in due course, but yeah, it's those kind of things that you know just think ohh going you know going back a bit in time and there's no there's no real mapping for the Yukon either.

    00:32:04 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Which is one of the challenges. So I worked with you. May you may remember our friends at Southampton University, so I did a bit with.

    00:32:13 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Chris Hill there, who of course we recently actually and they did a bit of mapping for me a couple of years ago. You know looking at the.

    00:32:20 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But actually when?

    00:32:21 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I spoke to him said hey, thanks for the mapping. I'm finally gonna do it because we originally intended to do it through COVID and they said just so you know, obviously all of those channels could have completely changed, noting the fact.

    00:32:32 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It's now been a couple of years and all the run off and everything else, and I was like.

    00:32:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That great. So we'll go with what we've got and see.

    00:32:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Ohh well so navigation actually is is more of a challenge than than kind of expected cause I remember like the NDS you know.

    00:32:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    How?

    00:32:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Our navigation is huge.

    00:32:46 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, I mean like can then, yes, people people said, you know, well obviously there you got to take a comp person obviously check the mapping and then when you get there you basically just follow somebody else you know during the daytime you know you're like well the compass doesn't really like make it out of your bag does it cause either following a you know a a glow stick attached to somebody or or they actually see something else.

    00:33:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, you just. I did.

    00:33:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I don't think.

    00:33:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I did any navigation, but yeah, navigation's huge. You know, you gotta take your GPS's, you know your waypoints, try and plot a rule on the way there and make it what you can. So there's there's some of it where we've got, you know, some really, really cool mapping done by the University of Southampton. And thanks to them on that side and but a lot of it is, you know, the old light guide.

    00:33:27 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Some recognising features on the ground and, you know, trying to understand, you know where you are in relation to.

    00:33:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, sort of elevations around you. So yeah, I I'm not even focusing on that part for now.

    00:33:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I'll deal with that when I.

    00:33:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm just thinking now there there'll be some, probably some listeners here who go officers. They'll connect officers and navigation. They'll be like they won't make it.

    00:33:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    To the end.

    00:33:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I don't know people messaging me saying yes, just in case you get your ideas, Chris, you're not going to get to the end.

    00:33:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Well, I'll let. I'll let you know if we get there.

    00:34:00 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But yeah, fake it for your baby here. We'll see. We'll just we'll just wing it like I usually do and see how it goes. Can't be that hard. I say now until maybe I catch up with you after it. And you, if you say what? What would you say to anyone thinking of doing it? And I say one don't.

    00:34:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Thanks.

    00:34:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Do it and.

    00:34:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Two, if you are properly navigate.

    00:34:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Like Christian, but that film of Revenant? Yeah, it was like that, I guess. Well, that, what? What kind of advice do you have for other people who want to complete EU code 1000 or so?

    00:34:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, exactly.

    00:34:27

    Eric Phillip.

    00:34:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Take the follow my advice.

    00:34:38 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That's the only advice I.

    00:34:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Have well put. I'll probably you know, I'll let you know when it's done. That's probably one of them. And that's if I make it to the finish line. You know, my advice is ever, you know, more generally, life is too short and and that sense of wonderment, excitement that comes with adventure that we all crave.

    00:35:00 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Something you should seize the opportunity for because you know one day we won't have that opportunity and it's better to have tried and failed or or tried and it you know you learned from it than never to have tried at all. It's that whole, you know putting yourself in the arena.

    00:35:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Piece, isn't it?

    00:35:16

    There it is.

    00:35:18 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And I think, you know, we live in this incredible world and every day, you know, is another day lesson. You know, someone said to me, if we, you know, Nick, if we were a week or something, I'm on Wednesday or something. If life was a week. Bloody. Yeah. I've only got like, the end of the week and the weekend ahead.

    00:35:35 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you think? No, I want to achieve some.

    00:35:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Enough. And and so I think it's trying to pack it in, you know always. I've always wanted to live a life, you know well spent. You know, I've always said I'd like to be sliding into my grave. You know, as I get there at whatever stage that comes, we never know when we meet the makers. So you know, I I think you know, enjoy the opportunities we have.

    00:35:48

    Yes.

    00:35:51

    Yeah.

    00:35:57 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, make the most of that childlike excitement and wonderment of, you know, the natural world in which.

    00:36:03 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    We live in and.

    00:36:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you know, this place is probably all over the.

    00:36:07 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Well, that you know people are craving to go and you know holidays, one form or adventures, another form whether it walking, cycling, hiking, you name it, a challenge for all levels of ability. But it gives you a unique, a unique perspective to see the world and a different way.

    00:36:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, I completely agree. Like I, I've, I've I've got into bike packing, essentially cycling cycle touring, but obviously carrying tent and sleeping bag and obviously all the things you need and and actually I found that kind of that that's fits me a lot better you know for kind of entering my 40s now.

    00:36:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And you know, other other adventures will have in the past because it's so it's affordable. You got, you got the benefits of kind of slow travel and versus commas where you can actually see places and experience it and kind of meet people and see the cultures but then also you're travelling fast enough that actually you can go from country to country almost you know in a in a couple of days if you're you.

    00:36:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Know if you're crossing off.

    00:37:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And and you could use that for kind of like really remote parts of the world as well. So I'm gonna give the the Silk Road mountain race a crack in the in the next.

    00:37:06 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Few years which?

    00:37:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Is a a long bike packing race I'm busy writing.

    00:37:09

    Yeah.

    00:37:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Down notes. Literally, that's gonna talk to you about. Maybe we'll touch on that.

    00:37:15 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    A minute.

    00:37:16

    But yeah, that's really.

    00:37:17 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Cool, it's only cause I know Kurdistan jump jumped up for me on the Silk Road, but the the by packing things awesome because I think you know, like you say, those small mini adventures, you know it's people who who have got a weekend and they're not sure what to do with it. But you know want to go see Snowdonia or the Lake District.

    00:37:20

    Yeah.

    00:37:36 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It's like, hey, head up there and jump on your bike or go for a walk and take a turn and you know, slow it down a bit. But see somewhere you've never seen before. It's amazing.

    00:37:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I bought a motorbike about a year or so ago, mainly because my Land Rover Defender, which isn't great for carbon, gets charged when I go into bath.

    00:37:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It does have plenty of other.

    00:37:57 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Uses in all of those wonderful things.

    00:37:59 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But I bought a motorbike to get into town or go to the train station and stuff, but I'm actually petrified of a motorbike because you know, I.

    00:38:09

    The.

    00:38:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Never been one for cycling or two wheels, so I don't think I've ever really gone over 30 miles an hour or got out of second gear. I'm like, you know, Miss Daisy on it. But you know what? I've loved, actually is putting a helmet on on on a sunny day. I I mean, I've had it a year and it's probably not done more than a couple of 100 miles and and just poo sitting around the countryside.

    00:38:25

    Yeah.

    00:38:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Places you haven't been taking the road less travelled slowly and looking around and taking in the sights. The smells, the sound.

    00:38:37 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you can have those mini adventures in your own back garden. And and sometimes we lose sight of what's around us or or on our doorstep. And for me that, you know, putting a helmet on and jumping on a motorbike and you know, not having distraction of the radio or your phone or, you know, half the time most of the time I'm in.

    00:38:55 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    My car. I'm on phone calls.

    00:38:57 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, just actually in, you know, taking it in is incredible. Like you say with bike packing.

    00:39:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know, it's just the ability to get it, get out of there and get into a wonderful headspace and see things on your.

    00:39:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Doorstep or whatever.

    00:39:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. I I started. I started motorbike packing as well last year, which which was. So I rode my motorbike from UK to Estonia, which 1000 miles across to Europe. And then I was like actually this is this is quite enjoyable, you know, saying saying there being B it's super affordable obviously it's it's quite a low.

    00:39:08 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It may be it's.

    00:39:24

    Yeah.

    00:39:27 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Carbon way of travelling is it. It's not completely, you know, carbon free, but actually you can. You can get, you can get and see a lot, you know from using the motorbike and just strapping a.

    00:39:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Tent on the back of it.

    00:39:37 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, there's a friend of mine who's from Sandhurst. He's travelling the length of America's and I'm very envious. He's gone all the way down on a sort of like BMW adventure bike. And I'm very envious watching that.

    00:39:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Wow.

    00:39:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Oh wow.

    00:39:51 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It looks incredible.

    00:39:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That was very cool.

    00:39:52 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But one of the things you said that really flipped my.

    00:39:57 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Was the silk.

    00:40:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Road race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gets me to the last question, actually. What? What's your next adventure brackets? Is it the Red mountain race?

    00:40:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Which is what my first contact was been would be. I'm done. I think I'm done and I used to love running and as I not getting older. But yeah, getting older, but I can't be bothered to go running. I say that in a in one of those ways. Like, yeah, yeah. I used to love that.

    00:40:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna go run. It's.

    00:40:31 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Dark. It's cold. It's love.

    00:40:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah.

    00:40:33 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And now I get up and you know, you know, when you protagonists when you know you've laid all your stuff out the night before, or if you me.

    00:40:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You do and you look at it.

    00:40:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And go and half an hour later, you've eventually gotten out and I take the dog with me. And then you stop because you got pick up after the dog and then you're running with her like a dog poo bag and a dog or something. You're like, oh, man, this just isn't as fun.

    00:40:41 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Size code.

    00:40:53 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And so actually, I've really enjoyed the rowing machine. It's indoors. I wake up, I roll out a bed. I got a pair of shoes upstairs. I jump on it, pair of shorts, trainers off I go. Listen to some music or you.

    00:41:04 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Know podcast or something?

    00:41:05

    Yeah.

    00:41:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Way and then I can actually enjoy walking the dog outdoors and I try and do.

    00:41:09 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Lots of my cools outdoors for.

    00:41:10

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:41:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Work and stuff. You think rather than just sitting there, I'd rather put my headphones on and go for a walk cause I do it. But I'm reminded by my wife of things, you know, that I'm not allowed to climb. Everest is one of them that Amanda always says and.

    00:41:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    It's like, OK, fair enough.

    00:41:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Umm.

    00:41:26 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    So I I leave that one.

    00:41:27

    Yeah.

    00:41:29 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I would like to.

    00:41:30 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Do something far more gentle. I have always looked at again. Amanda and I was talking about swimming between some islands in the Mediterranean and they sort of, you know, few days swimming between islands, which sounds really quite nice with a maybe a gin and tonic at the end of each day.

    00:41:41

    Yeah.

    00:41:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And and I suppose the one thing I really crave is an adventure in the snow, one of one of the sort of the real bucket list, bucket, list headline items for me is the Northern Lights. And I would love to do something.

    00:41:57

    Yeah. Yes.

    00:42:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know the snow snow underneath the the Northern Lights because again, you know, I spoke to my wife. You said ohh. You know 40th birthday. Should we go on a trip? Go see them. And I was like yeah, but you know anywhere you go you either see it or you don't see it or there's loads of people around you. You're a Northern Lights visiting hotel where's actually.

    00:42:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah.

    00:42:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:42:21 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You know what I'd love is a week or two, you know, out in, you know, the yooo in the snow dog Sledging's could do.

    00:42:28 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Being ski touring, I don't know. Please, can you or any of anyone listening come up with a wonderful idea for something to do, be it Finland, Sweden, Norway underneath the Northern Lights somewhere. You know, for a week or two. That is what I'm craving. So, but that's my plea. In turn, Chris to say, help me find something.

    00:42:48 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    That can fulfil.

    00:42:49 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    My real bucket list headline item, we've seen the Northern Lights on some snow.

    00:42:54 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Just adventure that I would sign up.

    00:42:56 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    To in a heartbeat.

    00:42:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It's funny you said because I've been. I've been researching fat biking so so fat bike packing races, so there there's a there's a thing.

    00:43:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Out there. Ohh, those are the big.

    00:43:05 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Tyres. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they literally look literally look like somebody put motorbike wheels onto a onto a mountain bike. And they're like 3 inches or bigger. Like some of that four or five inches.

    00:43:16 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, tie us across and you you can obviously they're stable and snow and obviously ice and and.

    00:43:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, kind of sand as well, I think they've been, they've been ridden on and but then people have started, started doing races on them, you know, for like multiple days. So you obviously attach your, your tent your, you know, polar gear. And I'm talking I'm I'm interviewing a lady in a couple of weeks time actually.

    00:43:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I hope you said Paul again.

    00:43:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, but you're going back to, like, you know, I'm, I'm interviewing a lady in a couple weeks time. He's going to ride, I think, to the South Pole on a on a fat bike. And, you know, and.

    00:43:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    We carrying all of our all of our gear with there as well because obviously it's now now bikes have kind of developed to the point where you can you can do these polar trips on them. Yeah and and go and see things at the Northern Lights and.

    00:43:57

    Awesome.

    00:44:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I think.

    00:44:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    There's there's races in like Northern Sweden and.

    00:44:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I I just clarifying my my caveat was I want to dive it down. So I want something steady, not to an artist, not to a pole, just something steady to see lights.

    00:44:15

    Yeah.

    00:44:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I think it's.

    00:44:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah.

    00:44:24 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But cycling's are really interesting one like it.

    00:44:27 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I you know, I I had a really quite a fond memory in my sixth form at school we went for A and and I know you've been out there to Kurdistan as well. I went out for a month trekking in the Tian.

    00:44:36

    Yeah.

    00:44:40 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Warrenton Rangers, like an impressionable 17 year old at the time and you know, out on the glaciers, and I think it was the first and only time I've used crampons and it was incredible. And it was like, you know, and actually, I looked at this Silk Road mountain race and I said to someone the other.

    00:44:55 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    They they couple of friends and said, hey, you gonna come do the MD? SI was like no way am I doing that again. But we were talking about a challenge and I and I said to him and I said yeah but actually this looks interesting and in my mind and this is how I view things because they went how did you do that it was I said ohh this Silk Road mountain bike race thing I said it it's like an extreme.

    00:45:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Version of your.

    00:45:16 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Child pushing your bike back home up hills when you've got a puncture but carrying your kit.

    00:45:23

    And you're like.

    00:45:24 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    No, that's not it. And I was like, yeah, it kind of is. All I've seen is people pushing your bike up a hill and then cycling.

    00:45:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, that's what. That's what. Here actually, yeah.

    00:45:32

    Yeah.

    00:45:33

    Yeah, yeah. Simple.

    00:45:34 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    How hard can it be? But that looks to me something really good fun and I'd love to do that. I think that could be something you could do with a real, like a group of people. I know it's teams of two, but I'm sure you could buddy up a bit.

    00:45:46 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But that sounds like an incredible adventure to have.

    00:45:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah, no saying, but it's it's it's so funny you said that because I literally, when I saw when I heard about you come 1000 and I actually started researching. I was like I think I found my next challenge now after so great bums and race and I think I have to do that.

    00:46:04 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah, but that's the thing. There's so many cool and amazing things to do, and you know, there's there's always something to suit everyone of all you know, abilities or whatever people you know are motivated to do. They don't have to be the proverbial idiot in sport trying to take things on.

    00:46:15

    Yes.

    00:46:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, well, yeah, they get. And again I I think you know things like ocean rowing and, you know, these these kind of races the the the Yukon 1000 lots of other you know bike packing races easier it actually makes it makes the world for a lot of a smaller place and that they'd say a few decades ago doesn't it where actually now people get out and really work places.

    00:46:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, take photos, do video. I went to YouTube and all of a sudden you can see somewhere the other side of the world, which has never been, you know, maybe never been seen before. So yeah, I love it. It's fantastic, isn't it?

    00:46:50 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yeah.

    00:46:52 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    But then this you know, something to be said for the ability to go and touch it and see it with your own eyes and, you know, feel it, immerse yourself in it, the smells, the sights, the sounds and everything that goes with these adventures is, you know, it's something you can never replicate.

    00:47:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, definitely. I guess, I guess I'll, I'll.

    00:47:11 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And that's why.

    00:47:11

    Yeah.

    00:47:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    For another, another question actually is anyone you want to give a shout out to before we start.

    00:47:16 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    To to kind of wrap wrap it up.

    00:47:20 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I will probably say my long-suffering wife from.

    00:47:23 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Your wife, Amanda and my girls, Ella and Mila.

    00:47:28 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    They're the ones who stand by and put up with me and all these things. So as I, as I sort of skip out the door and head off to Alaska for a couple of weeks on a seemingly jolly and she's there holding the four.

    00:47:43 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And you know, I'm also missing as a reminder, and I'm also missing Milas last day at primary school when I'm away, which you know, it's one of those things that you'd think about it as young you and go ohh. You know that's that's not huge, but actually it's massively sentimental in their lives and and quite a poignant, you know, point and I.

    00:47:48

    All right.

    00:48:02 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Sort of approached the subject.

    00:48:04 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    For a while again.

    00:48:04 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And said hey Mila.

    00:48:05 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Like I might like miss your last day of school. Is that right? And she was like, no, I want you.

    00:48:10 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    To be there and I was like.

    00:48:12 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Damn like ohh so I I need to make that up to her. So I think definitely a shout out to those 3 ladies in my life for all that they do in supporting and being.

    00:48:26 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Wonderful. So lots of love.

    00:48:26 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Fantastic. And we'll make sure to put the the links to obviously your charities and the business and and you know LinkedIn and stuff in the in the show notes as well so.

    00:48:27 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    Yes.

    00:48:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    So yeah, Nick, thanks so much for for being on the podcast. It's.

    00:48:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Been great chatting to.

    00:48:39 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    You. No thank you, mate. Great to catch up. Great to chat and thoroughly enjoyed it.

    00:48:44 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    And I'll let you how.

    00:48:45 Nick Spicer FRGS, founder of Your Eco Team Rubicon disaster response volunteer aiming to complete the infamous Yukon 1000, a self-supported pairs canoe race through the US wilderness to the Canadian Arctic circle

    I go let you know how I go rather.

    00:48:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It was great to chat, to make on this huge range of topics. If you're interested in taking on the ECON 1000 race, be sure to check out the shares below for the Web links.

    00:48:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And I'll see you next time.

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Episode 12 ~ Sam Cox, a Royal Marines Major aiming to complete a world record Antarctic expedition in 2023